So excuse me if I have a soft spot for these cut-to-the-chase innovators that exude confidence and drive. In reality I understand my flaws as a person and as an ENTJ I have no plan to ever change them. Every time I'm medicated for it people mistake me for ENTJ. AGREE 100%. Some look for a co-hero, someone that is on the exact same track as you, with similar goals and aspirations. Read More Do ISTPs Like To Argue?Continue. It is no surprise to me that you are an INTJ. INTPs like that ENTJs are masters of efficiency, capable of accomplishing anything they set their minds to. We need more entjs. Finding a disciple that supports the community is the key to overcoming their creative shortcomings. Attention to detail / focus. So - one of the 1% of females here who is an ENTJ-T and I'm not sure if maybe gender or indivuduality (or a combo of both) has a role to play in what I'm about to say or what BUT I do find fault with some of these observations: 1. ENTJ. Its hard for INTPs to connect with ENTJs, but their relationship is pure gold when they do. ENTJsextroversion comes in terms of their tendency (or desire)to control the external environment (of people and experiences), and their understanding of the interdependence of their success rate with social networking, contrary to the stereotypical boisterous, warm, etc extrovert. Hope I didn't confuse anyone too badly. We make magic in the bedroom also. I am a pisces with leo moon and capricorn rising and I grew up thinking I was a dark person and nobody understood my jokes so I tried to not make any and loved criminal movies and I never tried to discuss with ppl especially if they cannot understand my taste and starts an argument about it, I really don't fit into very friendly individual now but I used to be a people pleaser until I relised some ppl are not worth the help and some refuse to change. That is when there is pure confidence because their reasons for doing things comes from them and not the outside. I hate that my self. Jayne is a B2B tech copywriter and the editorial director here at Truity. It is interesting to see that this is a common thing for ENTJs. According to personality test data, ENTJs make up just 2% of the population - 3% of men, and 1% of women. We know when we have messed up and a situation warrents our sincerest apologies. You could be sitting in a room with 10 professors and believe yourself to be more knowledgeable than ALL of them put together in one. This makes me angry, and makes me dislike ENTJs. INTPs prefer to have ENTJs as coworkers, friends, and business partners rather than as romantic partners. While he's had a major impact on modern psychology and temperament theory, Jung spent time exploring a LOT of ideas that are clearly nonsense, astrology included. 3. I also feel relieved. Otherwise I will take the lead. Please do not understand this as a throwout attempt, that is defenitely not my wish (I like having diverse discussion partners). Ugh, it's a blessing and a curse that we are so rare. INTJs and ENTJs never good in relationship to begin with! Traveller, there are no roads. True leaders say sorry. . My significant other is like a lightning rod for rationality - he gets utterly confused when asked to lead with the heart. ENTJs are very protective of their emotions and have a more extroverted approach. Especially when I give them my time and they don't change, I just ignore them. Their strengths are in different places is all.. ENTJ Female Cancer here. Steve has worked with diverse populations and in variety of a settings, from community clinics to SF General Hospital. but "huh, that's weird". It seems that people think this personality type is about power but for me it comes up like poking apparent leaders with sticks to make sure they actually have a pulse up there. Same thing this is not related to ENTJ. It's just that he 'thinks' emotions rather than 'feels' emotions. Their open-mindedness, intuition, and constant state of analysis will lead them to build a good foundation of trust in their partner if that partner is worthy of trust. You're basically ESTJs in disguise; you think you're macro-managing something, but you're trivial, you suffer from OCD, and you're just big, bloated fish in a small pond. It makes conversations trite, it shuts down interesting discussions before I even feel like they've started. Their efficiency. I do sweat the small stuff. I go for that length just to tell him which one way he should take so he will be better at least in student's eyes (I am student, I know better) and make everything fair, but he refused instead. This method [] I'm and ENTJ woman and Ireally feel like this. Feels good to know there are others out there :). Even womans. Which is why it's more confusing to find my true type! INTPs inspire ENTJs to be more relaxed on a day-to-day basis while ENTJs motivate INTPs to come up with concrete plans. I love the article. My mom says I should have been born a man given my personality and interests. Like you, sparks fly when we have disagreements over the points above. People think I'm cold and calculating but also charming. Although they are not lazy, INTPs are not fond of routines. I might just not so subtly forward this article to everyone I know Not a bad idea. It's mostly women, but some men get into it as well. tom_burk 22 hr. Yeeha! ENTJs give INTPs direction regarding their intellectual and creative ideas, while INTPs reliably support ENTJs goals. :). They appreciate constructive criticism. Everything, repeat everything, is approached like a business decision. You are using an out of date browser. I am a female ENTJ. If you aren't making mistakes you aren't trying hard enough. Intense with a second layer or intenseness. (My art project plans are way too grandiose for my own good.). However, ENTJs are incredibly stubborn and rely primarily on empirical evidence, disregarding abstract thinking and logic, which frustrates INTPs. Weve compiled a brief list of reasons that may explain why ENTJs often hate INTP personality types. I don't know if the same goes with a girl, but I interact very well with male ENTJs. They'll tell you to stop thinking and DO something. INTPs also admire ENTJ's insight and the ability to actually do something about their shared ideas. I do believe depression and peer pressure can dissolve someones personality type. Yes I can. They see the logic in telling the truth and can trust others easily. ? You are me to the very very T!!!! But who cares? Cancer ENTJ here as well thought I had not seen another Cancer post here but was wrong. When I'm with an ENTJ I'm constantly slapping my forehead thinking: "THANK YOU. Guess Ihave a type;unfortunately, that type tends not to like men. 100% agree. article you say that INTJ is a crappy personality and all you do is point out our flaws, but in this article you not only excuse the flaws of the ENTJ you claim that their flaws aren't flaws. Irelate to this post and alot of the commentary. INTPs and ENTJs are cynical, critical, and love discussing high-level topics such as government, education, science, and spirituality. No surprise, I'm the only woman on my team. Read More Can ESFJs Be Musicians And Artists?Continue. Its humble and wise to say so. If not I will endanger you as a form of revenge." My husband is a Sagittarius ENTJ but does not drive a Mercedes. What we're saying here is that an ENTJ functions best with a wing (wo)man. I am also a student of esoteric subjects and an amateur astrologer. It's taken me years to slow and and "tolerate" others and play nice waiting for them to come to the same conclusion I realized last week. What purpose is there for having a relationship if you are not benefiting from their insight into your self? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 8-when expressing my feelings, they are misinterpreted, and most of the time misinterpreted as anger, my emotions run deep and often times but things run deep and often times my anger is my weakness, if im sad usually i close mysf of to just contemplate and find a solution, if I don't find a solution I really get out of my element and feel lost 9-acting before thinking has been an issue growing up, but hey I'm a gambler and I want to see results as soon as possible. Be you!! Like some of you, I tried to be more normal for the last fear years and it worked ok butback fired on my health. What I have experienced is people are confused by me. Asan intuitive thinker, doesnt neccesarily mean I agree with them. INTP vs ENTJ will work incredibly well together. Good to see my chameleon circuits are functioning properly. Read More INTPs Are Not Lazy. Part of that I'm certain is the natural way our types relate to each other about ideas. Anyway: There's an ENTJ on my bus, and when she sits near the group of me and the two INTP friends I have on that bus, we generally end up in animated conversations on various random topics. The ENTJ will deal with the high-profile strategy stuff that's important. In our house, this has led to some fairly explosive exchanges. This is a great question and I look forward to reading the answers. You need to start your own business, or you will never realize your trueself, or potential. Female ENTJ quadruple Sagittarius, Sun, Mercury, Mars, Neptune. Why Did I Pick This Book for ENTJs? Oh well, I guess that's how I am. INTPs are Thinkers and as such their Feeling function is quite weak. Worst case scenario? Are you curious to know more about how these two personality types match together? Hi, I am taurus ENTJ, my inlaws family is full of ESFJ. The only insight I can give is taken from a platonic relationship with vulture. He specializes in using evidence-based approaches in his work with individuals and groups. I have a great amount of education and when I say something to someone Im working with, it comes from experienceand data. SOPHIA. I chose "is" because I didn't want to argue his historic existence, and it's obvious that he exists as a character at least. I'm not highly dominant & Commanding as said about entj types. All the weaknesses you have described above i truely related to all of them, but my test results shows I'm an entp! Painfully accurate! I'm NOT impulsive, that would be foolish. As for inefficiencies thats my petpeeve lol. All of these things set me apart from others, but it never made me an outcast. Read More Are INFJs Sensitive And Easily Overwhelmed?Continue. These two personalities share a love for science and facts. Find Jayne at White Rose Copywriting. I a female ENTJ (pisces) also. One is a selfless but patient "planner" that never gets around to actually doing it/ doesn't want to ever start, and the other is a self-serving hot-blooded pursuer. I did the same thing but went into crash mode trying to please others. We make up just only onepercent of the woman population. Where does it say ENTJ's are? This makes dissecting this personality type simple. Freud is 80% fraud, all except the E for Ego, (psychologists) is the R for Relationship, "Lor and NoI are my heroes and I would do anything for them! At a guess, these "irrational" methods work by giving you more confidence in what you already believe. My female boss is ENTJ Aries. This 3% is what makes us special. Astrology is a pieceof a whole picture. But as much as I like ENTJs, I couldn't eat a whole one. I'm tired of working with other people, but I'm also an extravert. I have a love/hate relationship with the sheer forcefulness of their personality, it's kinda hot sometimes other times it just feels bossy and overbearing [probably when they're using it on me]. I think INTP and ENTJ works well together because the INTP is a logical and rational thinker, and the ENTJ is an artistic doer. I have struggled with weaker, less dominate superiors throughout my career. Have a great rest of your day! There are certain things about them that justrub people up the wrong way. She told me that was the meanest thing anyone's ever said to her and I was thinking I gave her a compliment. Whenever there is debate or conflict or I have to correct someone or call a miatake to someones attention despite having read "how to win friends and influence people" and years of therapy, I still manage to rub people the worng way with my level of directness focus on the issue. Not everything he came up with was rationally consistent to people who aren't high on drugs. I'm middle-aged and still don't know how to "human.". INTPs often wear their heart on their sleeve. I am a giving, kind, considerate person. The world is too small. And both type share similar traits and behavior! Generally, INTPs admire ENTJs for their success. I also try blending in, but it feels too forced. Since you cannot meet their needs it turns into hate. He is a patince personality. Saem with my family, friends etc. And who should apologize for trying too hard? Can INTPs Work With Marketing? For more information on the Myers Briggs Type Indicator assessment, please go here. That's the part of theirfunction stack that they havethe least access too, and it's usually the exact opposite of theirusual type. Non-reality living and mindsets simply haltprogress. In the grip of his inferior functions, an ENTJ will lose his extraverted thinking. This, I feel, goes against the very nature of the time-sensitive "get things done and improve" nature of ENTJ. Mainstream psychology says MBTI is pseudoscience, but I've found it useful, mainly because it gives a way of understanding different people as "differently healthy." You must bow down to me because of that and no complaining. You commented that almost 4 years ago! Oh and it will change your view on "Real Life" forever. casually playing guitar in my mental arena, http://soredragon.blogspot.com/2008/06/judge-dread.html, Truth, just.Truth. Why cant we have more people in this world who arent afraid of honesty and welcome challenges. 'Impersonal' is the adjective that best describes an ENTJ's thought processes; 'interpersonal' is something that other people do behind the scenes. I am kind and friendly. ENTJs are totally willing to pay any price in order to win. INTPs and ENTJs are logical people and they appreciate each other's rational thought process. Do I am whiny because I told you how to do something that you are clearly wrong and blind?! "Although being optimistic is certainly not limited to one type, there are some types that may be more inclined to, "According to a 2021 survey conducted by Truity, which involved over 88,000 people, ones are the least likely to be, Type Seven and Nine is a common relationship combination on the Enneagram. They can quickly become annoyed when they are reliant on other individuals. As usual, saying anything against the ENTJ type and Es in general on this forum is resulting in a response by myself. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The primary difference between these two personality types is their focus. I am a sagittarius-ENTJ and have the same issues as Aries, it is annoying when female coworkers getjealous for no reasonand so workingfor myself feels great, for that part so far, I didn't know I was an ENTJ before but I have always wondered why my female bosses didn't like me much, despite I get alone well with everyone. We all know males can be a little different in how they approach details and their feelings than females. And, at 53% Introverted, 47% Extraverted, my own personality is running dangerously close to the ENTJ cliff edge. Exactly, I personally used to do this untill my co worker heloped me big time. It may not display this or other websites correctly. . Because of their personality traits and dispositions, INFPs are often considered wall-flowers and may seem quiet. She's ENFJ. I hope it's not coming off too creepy, just not quite ready to give up a hope. Steven Melendy, PsyD., is a Clinical Psychologist who received his doctorate from The Wright Institute in Berkeley, California. Do ENTJs and INTPs get along? ENFJ -INFP relationships. Who cares what we feel, even if we spoke of it most of the time we will get trolled or mocked or even not give a fuck kind of response. As leaders, ENTJs are often well-spoken and enjoy organization and order. A chain of replies to a deleted (and irrelevant) post have been removed. 1-my main problem is not about sharing my feelings, it's just that I find it hard to express them, infact I think I feel more than average. But i didnt feel like I was myself when I made that decision. Strengths of the INTP and ENTJ Relationship 1. I havent lost yet. Really ENTJs?! Hey any ENTJ Pisces woman want to converse with an INTP Scorpio. And Whitney, you are disturbingly accurate. The INFJ is dominantly a Feeler and they can . INTPs find trouble with ENTJs unrealistic ideas, which are often shallow and not in-depth. INTP personality types are often caught-up in daydreams. There is nothing out of the ordinary, different or plain, special about you dear poster. Lack of ambition. It's clear that I shouldn't work for someone else. Works better with a geocentric model, but oh well. What do INTPs respect about ENTJs? Oh, one of the really good reasons to be with an ENTJ is that the well developed ones are a good lay. For instance, if you get an MSc in Physics, you'll be like 'STEM is the way to go. I am a female INFP Aries. I do believe that it makes my "bedside manner" very empathic. My name isn't Mercedes but I'm a Saggittarius ENTJ and will only drive a Mercedes lmao. To add to this, I was in my mid-40s before I met her so my personality had a chance to mature on its own. 10 Reasons Why INTPs Dislike ENTJs. INTPs like that ENTJs also share a strong belief in the importance of logical reasoning. They often daydream and get caught up in fantasy. 10- tbh, that's both a good and bad thing, yes we need strong leader figures in the world, but too much of us might cause a problem, we are too Passionate and goal oriented, a clash is bound to happen. Well, an ENTJ would complete me as an INTP. Now I am aware of my innate problems. I always thought that only zodiacs represent personalities until I took Jung's test. I don't quite understand perfectly why these two types are idealy matched, and I am looking for someone with insight on this. Although ESFJs are not typically considered a creative personality type, many examples of ESFJs have gone on to be successful musicians and/or artists. I'm very forward with how I feel and I have 0 problem with telling anyone where I stand. If you live/work/socialize with an ENTJ, prepare to hear some pretty blunt language. Real ENTJs don't believe in horoscopes, pretend to be someone else, or whine about either. When Iam not challenged, success seems so much easier. Wanna know why I suppress my feelings? So Im double weird for a lot of people. This man had some serious ambitions to achieve - he didn't want to be told to lighten up or 'chill.' i've got an entire manual of how to handle most situations. ENTJ stands for Extraversion, Intuition, Thinking, and Judgement. Why do INFJs like ENTJs? Enneagram. Thankyou for your brilliant description. In fact, several factors may be the underlying reason behind the clash between ENTJ and INTP personality types. Why do INTPs like ENFJs? 8- I feel the exact same way about that as well, when I get irritated or frustrated people regard it as anger. Whitney and mercedesz, you both are clearly not entj as we (actual entjs) do not care about what others think. No one personality is better than the other. But they hate me and woman never liked me growing up and still don't. Thats the extroverted part of them, they do actually understand what interpersonalmeans, only that it comes second to themselves. Sigh also and ENTJ Sagittarius and pretending to fit into any stereotype is agony. Why do INTPs like ENTJs? Seriously, ENTJs. Neither type has a lot of patience for doing the same thing day in and day out. I am a female INFJ and my husband is ENTJ. Constantly want to manipulate me but I refuse to bent, then you constantly telling me about your superiority and then mocking me to actually use dirty tricks to make me bend in spite. You canrationalize what it is about you that made you like him but it is really suchsimple biology. Read More Can INFJs Be Self-Centered And Evil?Continue. We win. ENTJs have a passion for learning and admire people who beat the odds. I too am an ENTJ female, aries. Well, you never know about wheel of life do you?! So, I would add not having a worthwhile mission would be a sin for an ENTJ. 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